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again confused by submission rejection

It is very frustrating to me that when a submission is rejected, you never get a precise explanation as to why.  It just says it doesn't meet the guidelines and suggests reviewing the guidelines, which are of course huge.  How can I possibly figure out the precise reason something was rejected?  Why do the people who reject it not at least cite which guideline it didn't follow?

This is in reference to #260611-210507-473000 where I added actor Woodson, William (voice) (uncredited) for the Fonz & The Happy Days Gang episode S1.E13 "Greece Is the Word".  He does the voice of the character named Callous.  However, I added this additional information to the submission reviewers (not part of what would get added to the site) which I'm guessing caused the problem:

"Since there is no credit, I am not sure if the character's name is spelled Callous or Callus or some other way. Someone with access to the original script could determine that."

I could've omitted that additional info, implying that I knew the spelling of the character's name, but I was trying to be transparent.  Typically cartoons of this era do not list character names outside of title characters.  So how do we know Velma, Fred, Shaggy, and Daphne are spelled that was in Scooby-Doo?  They're not generally listed in the credits.  So it's the same thing here.  I thought this would fall under this part of the guidelines:

"Wherever possible, we list character names as they appear in on-screen credits, i.e. the end titles cast listing. We make occasional exceptions when character names are not listed on-screen or when the character descriptions in the end titles include spoilers, but as a rule we try to stick to credits as closely as possible."

Should I resubmit it without the character's name?

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2 months ago

Hello jbmorris

You are adding a Voice uncredited credit and with no evidence for us to verify, which is the reason why you are being rejected, based on the Cast guidelines:

Due to the difficulty of verifying uncredited voice involvement, we don't allow uncredited voice credits.

I encourage you to take a look at the guidelines, the credit might not be valid to add, still if you find strong evidence of this person being part of the cast we can take a look.

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Ah, thank you Fran for explaining what the reason was!  If the original rejection could just tell me the reason, it would be more user friendly.

The series has two other uncredited voice actors listed:

Wolfman Jack
Opening Narrator(voice) (uncredited)
24 episodes • 1980–1981

Alan Oppenheimer
Controller/Krolack(voice) (uncredited)
1 episode • 1981

Based on this, it didn't occur to me that uncredited voice actors were not accepted.  Perhaps these were added prior to that guideline.  The only evidence I have at the moment is that I find his voice distinctive and it's very obvious to me that it's him.  Unfortunately the DVD has the wrong closing credits, so I'm only assuming he went uncredited, although I don't know why.  Wolfman Jack as the opening narrator not being credited was certainly a glaring omission on Hanna-Barbera's part in 1980, so I guess the occasional voice actor in just one episode being missing from the credits isn't too surprising.

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There are rare exceptions which with enough evidence we are able to add the Voice uncredited, now for this we need evidence and supporting links to validate and verify this person is the performer. Since there was no evidence attached we could not approve.

If you find valid evidence you can add the credit and add an explanation and supporting links to validate the credit.

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Thanks again Fran!  Can you give examples of the type of evidence you would accept?  For instance, can I just submit a voice sample of him from this episode and from another show where he is confirmed to provide the voice, and a human at IMDb will listen and confirm that it's the same person?  Or, although I prefer not to use AI, could I upload both samples to an AI engine that would same with some percentage of certainty whether they are the same person?

Or would you need something along the lines of a call sheet from this episode or a pay stub from 1980 saying he got paid for providing that voice?  I wouldn't have access to something like that.  Perhaps I could find someone involved with Hanna-Barbera who would be able to dig up such information, but likely it's such a trivial matter that no one would bother.

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In this case, supporting evidence for the credit can be:

Third-party news articles

Contracts

Call sheets

You can find what we consider as good evidence in the Help Articles.