Band Names Being Alphabetized as Individuals

I clicked on the October 25, 1989 episode of "Des O'Connor Tonight", which listed Transvision Vamp in the cast.  I clicked on the Edit function and they were listed as "Vamp, Transvision."

I did the same check for the October 24, 1989 episode of "Big World Cafe", which listed The The in the cast.  I clicked on the Edit Function and they were listed as "The, The."

So, yes, it is an issue.  

Hi @jasonik75,

This is how a vast majority of name pages are formatted within the IMDb Contribution Form, however they are never displayed as such on the site, therefore there is no need for a correction here.

I hope this helps!

Names says: "There are some exceptions: Stage names that don't resemble normal names, i.e. Little Richard, Meat Loaf, 50 Cent, Cedric the Entertainer, Boyz II Men, and Herbert the Rooster are not reversed."

It can be an issue wherever names are alphabetized – such as in searches or some credit lists.

I don't see a problem with The The. The Beatles are also listed as Beatles, The.

I'm not sure how groups like Elvis Costello and The Attractions should be alphabetized.

Elvis Costello and The Attractions should be alphabetized under "C."

The Beatles being alphabetized that way is correct.

My training is as a librarian, so I take this stuff seriously.  

Hi @jasonik75,

Elvis Costello and The Attractions do not have any credits that would see the band listed in an incorrect alphabetical order. We will not change the formatting of a name page that has no affect in how the name is displayed on the site.

I hope this helps!

@Ozzy​ Your statement contradicts the part of the guide quoted by @Peter_pbn . So either the guide or your statement needs a little tweak it seems.

Can someone (staffer or not) remove the Solved tag from this thread please?

@Marco​ 

Can someone (staffer or not) remove the Solved tag from this thread please?

Only staff can manage those settings at this point. But new comments on posts often make posts revert to "no status".

@Ozzy​ 

The fact that there are no credits currently that see the band listed incorrectly does not preclude the fact that it may happen in the future. There's no reason to ignore the problem simply because it isn't causing issues now when the fix is pretty simple.

Hi all,

We have confirmed with the relevant teams that whilst this is not a display issue and therefore should not set a precedent for similar changes, we have now reformatted the name text for Elvis Costello and The Attractions in accordance with the non-reversed stage names in the Names guidelines.

Thanks!

@Ozzy​ Splendid, thanks!

@Ozzy​: I checked on "White Light": Elvis Costello and the Attractions and Film Censors and they were alphabetized as "Attractions, Elvis Costello and the."  The same applies to "New British Canon": The Chaotic Story of Dexy's Midnight Runners & "Come On Eileen" , "New British Canon": The Unlikely Career of Pet Shop Boys & "It's a Sin" and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony (2003).    Please correct these.   Thank you.