Genre List Manager: Here we go again!

This is a really obtuse point of view. If adhered to, Film-Noir titles should NOT have Drama as a genre, Musical titles should NOT have Comedy as a genre, War titles should NOT have Drama as a genre, etc. The decision back in 2023 was to have Westen titles treated in the same way as other genres since there are differences between a Western Drama and a Western Comedy that need to be objectively acknowledged--just like there are differences between a Crime Drama and a Crime Comedy, a Musical Comedy and a Musical Drama, etc. IMDb also seems very reluctant to add Drama as a genre for TV Western series, even with a explanation: 250316-202709-589000 Track Contribution 2025-03-16 20:27:09 "Wagon Train" (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250316-202551-086000 Track Contribution 2025-03-16 20:25:51 "Gunsmoke" (1955) Why are Westerns being treated in a very different way from other genres? P.S. You, and IMDb, may not want to admit that Drama and Comedy are "super genres,” but they are, whether you like it not, or whether I like it or not. As I have said before, genres began with the ancient Greeks, and have evolved, and will probably continue forever, even though you and I will not. Ask any beginning, child dramatics student, and one of the fist things learned is the Greek masks of Comedy and Tragedy.

The Silver Whip (1953) Take the Western elements out of a Plot Outline, and this is what you get: "Frustrated with the lack of opportunities in his hometown, young Jess Harker plans to leave, but a sympathetic coworker persuades his boss to give Jess a better job.” Sure sounds like a Drama to me. And, you can do the same with a Plot Summary. 250321-053537-083000 Track Contribution 2025-03-21 05:35:37 The Silver Whip (1953) Genres - 1 item added Or: Plot outline for The Badlands (1958), with Western elements excised: "Released from prison, ex-killer John McBain wants to go straight while ex-robber Peter Van Hoek seeks revenge, and their destinies eventually converge.” Oh, wait: The Badlands (1958) was a remake of The Asphalt Jungle (1950), which is a CRIME DRAMA! 250315-233555-854000 Track Contribution 2025-03-15 23:35:55 The Badlanders (1958) Genres - 1 item added Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation Link : https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/genre-list-manager-try-this/67ddfa056e10775c8b7970c0 Title : Genre List Manager: Try this

Please explain, specifically: How is Drama accepted as a genre for “Shotgun Slade,” and NOT for “Laramie”? 250323-043702-063000 Track Contribution 2025-03-23 04:37:02 "Laramie" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250323-043516-864000 Track Contribution 2025-03-23 04:35:16 "Shotgun Slade" (1959) Genres - 1 item added Is there any rational reasoning going on at all? Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation Link : https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/genre-list-manager-im-begging-you/67e08fe7b7ace5002413fc79 Title : Genre List Manager: I’m begging you...

Re the famous John Ford-John Wayne cavalry trilogy -- Fort Apache (1949), She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) and Rio Grande (1050 -- how is Drama accepted as a genre for Fort Apache and Rio Grande, and NOT for She Wore a Yellow Ribbon? 250323-202845-018000 Track Contribution 2025-03-23 20:28:45 She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949) Genres - 1 item added Please explain, specifically.

Most untrue statement on this thread: "the sole classification of Western would give viewers the clearest expectation of what to expect prior to watching the film.” MORE information always helps when wanting to know what to expect.

WHAT is the “accepted solution”?

Hi bradley_kent - We have moved all your recent genre posts under this single thread for consistency so that all the genre submission issues you raised are easily available under the same thread. I appreciate all the examples you provided where you have observed an inconsistency, and I have raised these with the appropriate team for visibility and review. In the meantime, I also observed within some of your submissions that sources (like BFI) were mentioned but no supporting links were included. While a text explanation is extremely helpful, we also require the source link. Going forward when submitting evidence, please be sure o also include the relevant source links.

The inconsistency is what is so consternating! Look below: some were accepted, while others were denied. There is no discernible patten. The guidelines seem to change for one title to another. Does it all depend on the whim of the processor? Submitted Updates x Reference Date/Time Summary 250326-165858-859000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:58:58 Dallas (1950) Genres - 1 item added 250326-165517-012000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:55:17 Springfield Rifle (1952) Keywords - 1 item added, 31 items corrected Genres - 1 item added 250326-164522-223000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:45:22 The Hanging Tree (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-164146-659000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:41:46 Man of the West (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-161320-303000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:13:20 Pawnee (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250326-160755-688000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:07:55 Man from God's Country (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-160317-451000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:03:17 Gun Duel in Durango (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155709-763000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:57:09 "The High Chaparral" (1967) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155031-673000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:50:31 "Have Gun - Will Travel" (1957) Genres - 2 items added 250326-154731-751000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:47:31 "Laramie" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-154208-529000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:42:08 "The Rifleman" (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-015738-576000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 01:57:38 "Broken Arrow" (1956) Genres - 1 item added And, yes, there seems to be a prejudice against adding Drama as a genre for Western TV series.

The inconsistency is what is so consternating! Look below: some were accepted, while others were denied. There is no discernible patten. The guidelines seem to change for one title to another. Does it all depend on the whim of the processor? Submitted Updates x Reference Date/Time Summary 250326-165858-859000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:58:58 Dallas (1950) Genres - 1 item added 250326-165517-012000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:55:17 Springfield Rifle (1952) Keywords - 1 item added, 31 items corrected Genres - 1 item added 250326-164522-223000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:45:22 The Hanging Tree (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-164146-659000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:41:46 Man of the West (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-161320-303000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:13:20 Pawnee (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250326-160755-688000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:07:55 Man from God's Country (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-160317-451000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:03:17 Gun Duel in Durango (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155709-763000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:57:09 "The High Chaparral" (1967) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155031-673000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:50:31 "Have Gun - Will Travel" (1957) Genres - 2 items added 250326-154731-751000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:47:31 "Laramie" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-154208-529000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:42:08 "The Rifleman" (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250326-015738-576000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 01:57:38 "Broken Arrow" (1956) Genres - 1 item added And, yes, there seems to be a prejudice against adding Drama as a genre for Western TV series. Some get it. Most don’t.

To save you time, here are the five titles from the above list that you are refusing to add Drama as a genre. Why? Specifics? 250326-164522-223000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 16:45:22 The Hanging Tree (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155709-763000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:57:09 "The High Chaparral" (1967) Genres - 1 item added 250326-155031-673000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:50:31 "Have Gun - Will Travel" (1957) Genres - 2 items added 250326-154731-751000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:47:31 "Laramie" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250326-154208-529000 Track Contribution 2025-03-26 15:42:08 "The Rifleman" (1958) Genres - 1 item add

How about responding to some of the above postings?

I am very concerned that explanations are not even being looked at. You ask for resubmissions and explanations, and I give them, and STILL no response. To begin with, how about just looking at these two: 250405-052313-132000 Track Contribution 2025-04-05 05:23:13 The Innocents (1961) Genres - 1 item added 250405-051010-637000 Track Contribution 2025-04-05 05:10:10 "Kommissar Rex" (1994) Genres - 1 item added

From a list on IMDb of the Top 100 Noir Westerns, 74 already had or now have Drama as a genre. 26 do not. Please process these 26 contributions so they do: 250420-013006-866000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 01:30:06 Canyon Passage (1946) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250420-012206-932000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 01:22:06 California (1947) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250420-012002-863000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 01:20:02 Ramrod (1947) Keywords - 1 item corrected Genres - 1 item added 250420-010715-546000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 01:07:15 The Man from Colorado (1948) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250420-002026-560000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 00:20:26 The Doolins of Oklahoma (1949) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250420-001832-907000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 00:18:32 The Walking Hills (1949) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250420-001158-726000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 00:11:58 The Gunfighter (1950) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-233256-420000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 23:32:56 The Secret of Convict Lake (1951) Keywords - 1 item added, 33 items corrected, 1 item deleted Genres - 1 item added 250419-232513-604000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 23:25:13 Little Big Horn (1951) Keywords - 1 item added, 14 items corrected, 1 item deleted Genres - 1 item added 250419-231355-633000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 23:13:55 Rancho Notorious (1952) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-230933-758000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 23:09:33 Hangman's Knot (1952) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-224612-598000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:46:12 The Lawless Breed (1952) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-224149-203000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:41:49 Riding Shotgun (1954) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-223550-644000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:35:50 The Far Country (1954) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-222548-823000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:25:48 A Lawless Street (1955) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-222134-904000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:21:34 A Man Alone (1955) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-221902-166000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:19:02 Man with the Gun (1955) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-221105-417000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:11:05 The Violent Men (1955) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-220430-223000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 22:04:30 7 Men from Now (1956) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-215721-589000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 21:57:21 The Searchers (1956) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-212632-111000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 21:26:32 The Halliday Brand (1957) Keywords - 1 item added, 29 items corrected Genres - 1 item added 250419-211157-750000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 21:11:57 Decision at Sundown (1957) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-210732-299000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 21:07:32 Black Patch (1957) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-210431-095000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 21:04:31 The Tall T (1957) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-204348-386000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 20:43:48 Gunman's Walk (1958) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added 250419-203805-890000 Track Contribution 2025-04-19 20:38:05 Ride Lonesome (1959) Keywords - 1 item added Genres - 1 item added Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation Link : https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/noir-westerns-need-drama-as-a-genre/6806731a4a5b842b27fd1db2 Title : Noir Westerns need Drama as a genre

What is IMDb’s inconsistent prejudice against adding Drama as a genre for TV Western series (and films)? Many have Drama as a genre while others do not. I am tying to understand. Of these recent contributions, ONLY “Bonanza” was granted the Drama genre, which all the other SHOULD also correctly have. Why? Seriously, can IMDb explain the discrepancies? 250420-031330-381000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:13:30 "Wagon Train" (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250420-031043-980000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:10:43 "The Rifleman" (1958) Genres - 1 item added 250420-030915-071000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:09:15 "Rawhide" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250420-030728-956000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:07:28 "Maverick" (1957) Genres - 1 item added 250420-030553-733000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:05:53 "Bonanza" (1959) Genres - 1 item added 250420-030427-096000 Track Contribution 2025-04-20 03:04:27 "Gunsmoke" (1955) Genres - 1 item added They all meet the requiements of IMDb’s stated definitions for both the Western AND the Drama genres. Please, please explain. P.S. I have been a fan of westerns since boyhood (like Texan Les Adams), and I just cannot understand IMDb's lack of knowledge and objectivity with this genre. Is there a “British” attitude about westerns that is handicapping accurate reporting? Don’t stereotype westerns. They come in all kinds and types, just like any other genre. Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation Link : https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/does-imdb-hate-dramatic-western-tv-series-and-films/68090825fefeef15e330c959 Title : Does IMDb hate Dramatic Western TV series (and films)?

How about some responses from the staff who handle genres?