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Wednesday, May 1st, 2024 11:36 PM

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Having trouble keeping a cast list in order

See contribution #240501-182506-582000

I watched the show on the night it aired.  I originally submitted the complete cast list that evening, but it was incorrect.  I corrected my mistake less than 30 minute later (Contribution #240424-030835-333000), and everything was fine.

However, another contributor has reverted the submission, and I am having trouble correcting it. My latest attempt (see 240501-182506-582000) was rejected with "We believe your contribution contained factual inaccuracies".

I know that my contributions are factually correct, and pertain to the first airing of the show.  Subsequent airings, or online showings after the fact may be different, I don't know.  What I do know is that what I've submitted in the above contributions is correct data for the first airing of the show.

Feel free to examine my 30 year record of contributions and employment history for evidence that I have no reason to deceive the IMDb.

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5 months ago

Hi @ron3 -

We understand that you have been a great contributor for years which we do appreciate but in this case evidence has been provided for the credits and current order, reason why it won't be changed.

Thanks!

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So are you saying that the old rule of "as it first aired" is no longer applicable?

Because in this case, where the program was first aired in the Eastern and Central USA time zones, it did not air with credits.

I do not have access to how it may have aired later in the Mountain and Pacific time zones.  All I know is that if you watch it now via streaming or other "re-run" types of broadcasts, it does have credits.  But as first aired, it did not.  It was a hot cut to the following show.  All that was on-screen during the ending where the credits would have normally been, was a count-down timer showing how much time remained until the following show started.

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@ron3​ This sounds like a broadcast error in EDT/CDT which would not count in this case. 

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This is certainly not a one-off broadcast error.  Shows being first-aired without credits, and then subsequently shown with credits is a semi-common occurrence.

See https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/narrator-credit-in-imdb-even-when-not-credited-onscreen/5f4a79f88815453dba938789

and https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/narrator-credit-in-imdb-even-when-not-credited-onscreen-part-2/628b8a755c183c026e2038ee

It has happened at least 7 times before on this series alone going off my submission records.

I've got almost 500 submissions (probably not all exactly like this) that show an attribute of "(voice) (uncredited)" with a Narrator, going back over a decade, which represents (to me) a show that didn't have end credits on-screen when first aired.

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Hi @ron3​ -

Just circling back here (apologies for the long delay), I appreciate your comments, however, we will need to retain the credits as-is based on the source evidence we have until further evidence can be provided to prove otherwise.  If you are viewing original new episodes for "Curse of Oak Island" and can confirm with screen captures that there are no on-screen credits, we can then re-review, but for now as mentioned, we will retain the credits as they are.

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Yep, I had given up on this one being correctly listed.  I have indeed been keeping proof as needed on subsequent cases.