Multiple Contributions Being Repeatedly Rejected Despite Providing Evidence for Their Validity

Hey... thanks for fixing the ones that you fixed, but it looks like #5, #6, and #9 weren't fixed at all, while #7 is now listed as "Not: Hero" with "(Not) Hero" listed as the "original title" and #10 still has "Horror" listed as a genre.

Hello Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2,

Number 5 and 6 was a rejected as duplicate which means the changes were already made.

Number 10, I have checked and the certificates and the genre are no longer live.

For number 9, you need to provide evidence in order to correct the release date, your submission has no evidence, a wiki page link is not a valid piece of evidence.

@Fran​ The change wasn't made for #5.  The title problem has not been fixed.  The main title is still listed as Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century of the Week, while Carl's Pissed (the original title) and Carl (the most recent title) are still just listed as alternate titles.  Again, Carl's Pissed was the original title for season one, Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century of the Week was the title for season two, and Carl was the title for season three onwards.

Here's an article from Ad Age about Adult Swim's 2010 Burger King Big, Über, Network Sampling pilot contest that included "Neon Knome": https://archive.is/Qtayk

Here's a 2010 archive of the page on Adult Swim's website, showing "Neon Knome" as one of the pilots in the contest (you may have to wait for the page to load): https://web.archive.org/web/20100219233553/https://www.adultswim.com/promos/bkbuns2010/index.html

@Bethanny @Fran Thoughts on the above?  The changes still haven't been made.

Hello Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2,

In this case, you will have to re submit the missing changes using the online Update Form and make sure to include evidence for us to confirm the changes are correct. 

You can re submit and post the submission numbers here.

@Fran @Bethanny I resubmitted both as 240608-222519-368000 and 240608-222746-995000.  240608-222746-995000 was finally approved.  240608-222519-368000 still wasn't.  Please change it so that Carl's Pissed is listed as the original title, Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century of the Week is listed as the second season title, and Carl is listed as the most recent title (the display title, with Carl's Pissed displayed under it as "original title").

@Fran @Bethanny I still haven't heard back from you.  What are your thoughts on the above?

Please also take a look at 240611-183145-761000, which I've had repeatedly declined as well.

I have resubmitted and approved the submission  240608-222519-368000.

Regarding submission 240611-183145-761000, we will not the listed information, if the certificate is incorrect you can submit the correction with valid evidence.

@Fran @Bethanny Carl's Pissed is now listed as the original title, but Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century is still the IMDb display title.  Since Carl is the most recent title, Carl should be the IMDb display title, with Carl's Pissed listed below it as the original title and Carl's Stone Cold Lock of the Century of the Week listed as the second season title.

Regarding 240611-183145-761000, I did provide evidence.  Specifically:

Hi @Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2​ -

Concerning the primary title display for the series"Carl", the changes have been applied and should be live on the site shortly.

Concerning the Australian "M" certificate rating for the series "Insomnia", based on our own sources, we believe the certificate information we have listed is correct and will not be removed.

Cheers!

@Michelle @Fran @Bethanny The Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification's website lists all Australian rating certificates issued.  A search for "insomnia" pulls up this:

https://www.classification.gov.au/search/title?search=insomnia&sort_by=search_api_relevance&f%5B0%5D=category%3AF

Not a single one of the results is the 2024 television series Insomnia.  The results matching the title Insomnia - every single one of them - are for the 2002 film.  You can see this under "Date classified" in the link above.  The M rating is for the 2002 film, not the 2024 television series.  The 2024 television series was never rated in Australia.

Also, I recently had yet another attempt at fixing ratings information declined, this time for a different show: Silent Hill: Ascension.  My correction was submission 240618-201210-795000.  Once again, I provided evidence, yet it was still declined.

Hi @Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2​ -

The "M"certificate was verified via the Stan streaming service, I have now modified the certificate to include the attribute "(streaming)", which more correctly reflects the listing.

Concerning your certificate correction for "Silent Hill: Ascension", I can confirm that this was incorrectly declined, the change should believe on the site shortly.  Cheers!

@Michelle​ If there is an M certificate for Insomnia listed on a streaming service, but no page for the series on the Australian Classification Board/Office of Film and Literature Classification's website, then it must be a self-applied, unofficial rating - sort of like how, way back in the day, a lot of movies used to put "X" on their posters without actually receiving X ratings from the MPAA.  Anything that receives a rating from the Australian Classification Board - including on streaming services - has a page on the ACB's website.  As such, since this show never actually received an M rating from the ACB, should M still be listed as the Australian rating?

Hello Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2,

The certificate is correct and will remain listed in the site. The (streaming rating) attribute is the correct way to list the certificate in the site since the M certificate is from a streaming service. Just to clarify (self-applied) is used for X ratings in the US. You can take a look at our Help Articles which have some more useful information.

@Fran​ @Michelle @Bethanny Insomnia just received an actual rating from the Australian Classification Board/Office of Film and Literature Classification.  It's rated MA15+, not M: https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/insomnia-17

The Australian rating of M listed on the film's IMDb page needs to be changed to MA15+.

You can submit the correction using the online form.

@Fran​ @Michelle @Bethanny I just did (it's submission 240625-220857-597000), but I'm sure that it will get declined.  Almost every single time I correct ratings information, it gets declined.  Just recently, 240623-175855-376000 and 240625-020647-557000 were both declined for no reason, despite all of my corrections being 100% right.

You keep being declined because you are removing valid information from the Certificates section, we do not remove Certificates, we keep track of historical changes in the title pages. 

For submission 240625-220857-597000 you need to submit the addition as a new Certificate, not trying to remove the already live item. Now for 240623-175855-376000 and 240625-020647-557000 we will not remove valid and old Certifications.

@Fran @Bethanny @Michelle I tried to replace the rating on the Insomnia page with the correct rating, which is MA15+.  Again, this is the only rating for the show listed on the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification's website, and it was just recently given: https://www.classification.gov.au/titles/insomnia-17

The old certificates that I removed on the other two entries are NOT valid.  That's why I removed them.  They are fake ratings that someone added, just like the ones in the OP of this thread.  If they were valid, then I wouldn't have removed them.  I even provided evidence proving that the ratings that I removed weren't valid.

Big Mouth was never rated MA15+ in Australia.  Every season has been rated R18+: https://www.classification.gov.au/search/title?search=%22big%20mouth%22&sort_by=search_api_relevance&f%5B0%5D=category%3AF

The MA15+ listing actually contradicts the R18+ listing on the same IMDb page, which lists R18+ as the rating for all 7 seasons.  The show was, likewise, never rated TV-14 in America (every season was rated TV-MA, as you can see on the show's Netflix page), nor was it rated 16+ (which is an Amazon Prime Video rating and this show is a Netflix production that was never on Amazon Prime Video).  The rest of the corrections that I made were even more obvious ones.

Corpse Party: Tortured Souls was never rated 18 in the UK.  It would be rated 18 if it were ever submitted to the British Board of Film Classification, but it was never rated in the UK at all.  A search on the British Board of Film Classification's website turns up nothing: https://www.bbfc.co.uk/search?q=corpse%20party

The live certificate for "Insomnia" has a (streaming) attribute, which allows the certificate to be listed in the page. You can submit the original rating as a new certificate. 

I have removed the "Big Mouth" certificate. The changes will be live in the site shortly!

The certificate for "Corpse Party: Tortured Souls" will not be removed from the site. 

@Fran @Bethanny @Michelle The "streaming" certificate of M for Insomnia is false.  If a streaming service had that listed as the certificate, they listed it falsely.  The only certificate listed for the show on the Australian Office of Film and Literature Classification's website is MA15+.  If the show had ever received an M rating, it would be listed on the OFLC's website.  All Australian ratings issues - including ones on streaming - are listed on the OFLC's website, and the OFLC would not give two different ratings to the exact same thing.

If you resubmitted 240623-175855-376000 (the one for Big Mouth), it's not showing up at all.

As for Corpse Party: Tortured Souls, I see no reason why you would refuse to remove the UK certificate from the site when I just provided evidence that the certificate is false.  Corpse Party: Tortured Souls has never received ANY rating in the UK.  A search for it on the British Board of Film Classification's official website turns up nothing: https://www.bbfc.co.uk/search?q=corpse%20party

We won't be removing the certificate for the titles. The information in IMDb comes from various sources. Most of it is either researched by our staff or submitted by our users.

Now, the certificate for "Big Mouth" is no longer live in the site. 

@Fran @Michelle @Bethanny The MA15+ rating was removed, but the other incorrect ratings information on the Big Mouth page remains.  I just corrected it again as submission #240628-220651-871000.

Can you please explain to me why you believe that the UK 18 rating for Corpse Party: Tortured Souls is correct?  Because it isn't.  The show was, again, never submitted to the British Board of Film Classification for a rating.  Anything that receives a rating from the BBFC is listed on the BBFC's official website.  This show has no listing, because it was never released in the UK and never rated by the BBFC.

@AllisonOsterloh Even when I include ample evidence, my contributions still often get rejected for no reason (hence this thread).  That and the completely defective (and completely unnecessary, given the lack of images) filter for "adult" titles are the most annoying things about IMDb.  @mightyemperor had a great thread on Get Satisfaction about how the adult filter for lists is completely defective, but IMDb never did anything to fix any of the problems that were raised.

@Fran @Bethanny @Michelle I would also like to point out that it's very common for streaming services to have fake/incorrect ratings listed for movies and TV shows - especially for ones that actually have no rating.  To use one good example, Amazon Prime Video has Ghost in the Shell (1995) listed as being rated PG-13, even though Ghost in the Shell was actually never rated by the MPAA (and, if it were rated by the MPAA, it would be rated R without a doubt).  In this particular case, IMDb correctly has the film listed as being not rated in the US.

Hi @Madotsuki_the_Dreamer2​ -

Concerning the recent certificate updates you referenced for "Big Mouth", I can confirm that the updates have been approved.  Furthermore, the UK certificate rating for "Corpse Party: Tortured Souls" has been removed.

Lastly, regarding your comment about streaming services, when a title either has not been rated by an official governing body in that country, or when a streaming service has given the title a different rating to the official governing body, we will allow the given certificate with the attribute "(streaming)".

Cheers!

@Michelle @Fran @Bethanny I just submitted the MA15+ rating separately for Insomnia, but having the M rating listed as "streaming" seems misleading since the MA15+ rating is the official one for streaming and the M rating is just a fake rating placed on the show by one streaming service before the show had actually been rated.

I recently had two more attempts to remove fake ratings rejected: 240704-035629-661000 and 240704-034652-260000.  The former was never released in the US at all and was certainly never given three different US TV ratings.  The latter was never banned in any countries, and those "banned" listings were almost certainly added by the film's promoters as fake hype.

I just submitted 240705-043417-828000, removing two bogus ratings from another title.  That will probably get rejected as well, even though I'm correct in removing the fake ratings.

Also, I keep expanding on one of the entries in the parents' guide for The Terror (2018) and it keeps getting rejected every time for no reason.

You keep trying to remove old valid certificates which is against our guidelines, we wont remove historical changes made to the title certificates. This is the reason why your submissions keep getting rejected. 

@Fran @Michelle @Bethanny Once again, I'm not removing anything that's valid.  If it were valid, I wouldn't remove it.  I already elaborated above on why those certificates are not valid.  Gegege no Kitarô (1968) was never released in the US in any form and was certainly never given three different US TV ratings.  Swearnet (2014) was never banned in any countries - whoever added those fake "banned" listings was almost certainly just trying to hype up the film for promotional reasons.  The idea that a run-of-the-mill stoner comedy would be banned in the UK, Australia, Denmark, Norway, the Philippines, Spain, and South Africa is patently absurd.  The film was easily passed with ratings in all of those countries, as a quick search on those countries' film ratings databases will show you.

@Michelle @Bethanny Can I please get an answer regarding why I can't remove the fake ratings from Gegege no Kitarô and Swearnet?

Also, again, I keep trying to expand something in the parents' guide for The Terror and it keeps getting rejected every single time for no reason.

Finally, please remove the parents' guide for this film, as it's entirely just vandalism:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1196334/parentalguide

@Michelle @Bethanny Also, someone re-added some fake ratings to the Yume Nikki page: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2433672/reference/

@Fran @Michelle @Bethanny I tried to remove the fake ratings from Yume Nikki again (contribution #240718-201030-162000) and it was, unsurprisingly, rejected again.  Please answer me about this and about the other issues named above.

@Fran @Michelle @Bethanny I still have not heard back regarding the issues described above.

In addition, there are now 2 more:

1. IMDb will not let me add the "Adult" genre to this title, which is a hardcore hentai release (here, for example, is the video's Anime News Network listing which has it correctly listed as pornography).

2. IMDb will not let me merge this title with this title, even though they are duplicate entries for the same video.

@Fran @Michelle @Bethanny Another thing: all three of these names are the same person and need to be merged:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm10673285/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm6931667/

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm14260117/