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Release Dates - Premiere event bug

I noticed that when a title has its release type set as premiere, for example "Cannes Film Festival (premiere)" or any other release date marked with (premiere), voting for that title is disabled until the title has another showing. I can give some examples that I have tried to fix (with my other account) but with no success, have been rejected few times with a generic message "Unable to verify". This film premiered in August at Locarno Film Festival, but as you can see voting is disabled because of (premiere) mark. https://imdb.com/title/tt9141694/releaseinfo https://imdb.com/title/tt9141694 Some other examples: Premiere in March at SXSW https://imdb.com/title/tt11317170/releaseinfo https://imdb.com/title/tt11317170 October 7 premiere at Busan Film Festival, voting disabled https://imdb.com/title/tt29115028/releaseinfo https://imdb.com/title/tt29115028 Can someone check what the problem is? Thanks

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@Col_Needham​ Contribution IDs: 231018-073949-090000 231018-074021-537000 231018-074054-120000 231018-074122-074000 231018-074157-569000 I usually try to change the attribute "Premiere event" so that I mark "At a festival" or "Other (not listed above), sometimes it is accepted, but not in these cases.

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@Col_Needham​ Am I right in assuming there was a policy change regarding this attribute? In the past (as recent as Oct 2021, see http://web.archive.org/web/20211027220948/https://help.imdb.com/article/contribution/titles/release-dates/GVUUDEPJNAW6G35P?ref_=helpms_helpart_inline# ) it was okay to have the attribute (premiere) attached to a film festival. Am I also right in assuming this change wasn't announced or did I miss it? Also, previously, there was a definition/an explanation what a premiere is. I see this has been removed from the guide. Wouldn't it be clearer to have kept this?

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@Michelle​ Do you perhaps have an update on this?

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Another title, I can't change (premiere event) to (at a festival) for this film which premiered in August 2023 at Locarno Film Festival, contribution rejected 2 times. As you can see, due to the addition (premiere), the film cannot be rated. https://imdb.com/title/tt7578486 https://imdb.com/title/tt7578486/releaseinfo

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Two new titles screened at film festivals (my contributions were declined) Comme le feu (2024) - World premiere February 17, Berlin Film Festival https://www.berlinale.de/en/2024/programme/202403456.html Love Lies Bleeding (2024) - World premiere January 20, Sundance Film Festival https://festival.sundance.org/program/film/656a08c7fac9f442f5c0487a Thanks

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@Col_Needham​ I have the submission numbers, but I don't think there's a need to put them here now that it's fixed. Sometimes titles can't be rated before they go into theatrical release, regardless of whether they've been screened at multiple film festivals before, like "Killers of the Flower Moon", but I believe that's because those titles might be controversial or where there could be vote manipulation, so I don't report such titles here.

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@Col_Needham​ 240219-054649-415000 240219-055510-891000

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Another one, submision for change release type was declined, should be without "premiere". https://imdb.com/title/tt32394528

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Unfortunately, this is still a problem with titles that premiered at film festivals. This title, for example, had its world premiere back in March at the SXSW Film Festival, but voting is still disabled due to its "premiere" release type. https://imdb.com/title/tt27218960 https://imdb.com/title/tt27218960/releaseinfo

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@Col_Needham​ yes, it was rejected, reference number is 241002-121013-331000 At the top of the page you wrote: "The (premiere) attribute should generally not be used in connection with a festival screening. (Los Angeles, California) (premiere) == okay (Sundance Film Festival) (premiere) == not okay "

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@Col_Needham​ The submission guide still says Example festival attributes are: (Toronto International Film Festival) (premiere) (Cannes Film Festival)

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Also, new "Joker" movie and "Modi - Three Days on the Wing of Madness" directed by Johnny Depp have a premiere attribute even though they had world premieres at film festivals (Venice and San Sebastián). Joker is now in theaters, so it doesn't matter anymore.

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My previous thread was closed https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/data-issues-policy-discussions/release-dates-premiere-event-bug/652f25fedcce2440562fc87d Titles still cannot be rated until the next release date if they have a (premiere) tag. Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled (premiere) Release type bug still exist

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@Col_Needham​ you wrote this on that thread: "The (premiere) attribute should generally not be used in connection with a festival screening. So to summarise: (Los Angeles, California) (premiere) == okay (Sundance Film Festival) (premiere) == not okay" So, this is not okay, but when I try to correct it, I get "Does not meet contribution guidelines" message every time. Confusing.

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