There is a movie on Top 250 that simply doesn't exist.

Thanks!

@Ozzy​ What would be great is if the IMDb somehow had this available for streaming on the platform.

The other places like Apple and Crunchyroll no longer seem to have it.

Thanks. So there was a release on a streaming and some box office business in South Korea. Not nearly enough for this compilation of some episodes of a TV series to be considered a MOVIE and to be part of the Top 250.

IMDb should take the Top 250 more seriously. 
IMDb itself categorize this as a mere TV series compilation:

Hello  all, 

We have investigated and we have decided that the titles will remain live. If a title is created from editing together existing material into a narrative format and is released as a stand-alone title, it's eligible for its own title page, which is the case here.

This animated film was released as a standalone title, was given an R rating by the MPA, and is available as an individual 'movie' on streaming platforms, like Apple TV and Crunchyroll.

We have several precedents where TV episodes were edited together into a single feature film and we list them under their individual tconsts. Some examples:

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0301623/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0216312/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0077328/

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0482022/

etc. 

@angelopilla47​ I understand that new footage was added?

But, regardless, however much it may be respected (or not), it WAS released as a movie, so...

@EvanD71​ I don't believe in "rigging" the system, it should go against what the site stands for.

I remember when Captain Marvel came out, before it was even released it had a lot of 1 star votes. For me, anyone who rated it pre-released should have their ratings powers removed. Otherwise the site becomes Rotten Tomatoes.

@MovieCat​ you should be able to vote only movie you have actually seen but it’s basically impossible to do without guys trying to cheat on their fav titles like jap anime fans or Indian folks 

@honolulu_styles​ From what I've gleaned from reviews on Indian titles, it's not as intentional, it's more cultural.

I assume you maybe start out with the concept that a "5" is an average movie and you work from there? That's what I do, anyway.

But from what I understand, a lot of Indian voters start with the idea that any piece of art is a perfect product by existence, and any flaws detract away from that score. So the starting point is "10", and the worse it is, the more you take away points.

I could be wrong.

The Indian films also get a lot of flack, I've liked a lot of what I've seen. Granted, there's usually one around No.249 that gets in for one week (and nearly did this time) and that's annoying, because you've got to watch some throwaway movie that'll only be in it once.

But there's definitely headscratchers in the Top 250.... I still can't understand why a dog waiting for Richard Gere at a train station, fine though it is, is up there with Citizen Kane.

@MovieCat​ movie made after 2000 or 1990 without a metascore rate shouldn't be allowed to be in the list..so we can get rid of mary and max, hachiko, some indian's b-movies, the demon slayer ones and others. for the indians well, personally i actually enjoyed most of them and gave them rating from 5( andhadhun) to 8 (rrr, maharaja and others) so i am not biased that we have indian movie on the list but the fact that most of the titles have 80% of 10s ruin the whole system.

@honolulu_styles​ Yeah, I thought Mary and Max was FINE, but always puzzle over what it's doing in there.

I disagree about metascore though, it sets a worrying precedent. We might as well just tie the Top 250 to Sight and Sound.

@MovieCat​ how can you tie both lists?

@honolulu_styles​ That's what I mean, you can't. Two different things, innit?

@EvanD71​ Voting for a title means you have seen a title. Otherwise, how can you say a title deserves a 1 (or a 5 or a 10 for that matter)? Without having seen a title, voting for a title means you're kinda lying. You shouldn't suggest a lot of people do this.

You of course have the right to feel that this particular title shouldn't in the IMDb Top 250, but it's IMDb's site and IMDb considers this title a movie (I haven't seen it, but it seems they are right about this, judging from the other posts in this thread) and because of that, this title can be in the Top 250 if enough people have given a high vote for it. It's as simple (and democratic) as that.

@honolulu_styles​ "but it’s basically impossible to do without guys trying to cheat on their fav titles like jap anime fans or Indian folks "

Currently, there are (only) 16 films from Japan in the Top 250 and 6 Indian flicks (see https://250.took.nl/). I don't know if a lot of people are trying to cheat on these titles, but if they are, they hardly seem to succeed in corrupting the Top 250.

FWIW, there are currently 161 (!) titles from the USA in the Top 250...

@MovieCat​ "So the starting point is "10", and the worse it is, the more you take away points."

I might be missing something, but I fail to see why this wouldn't lead to a lot of 5's or 7's or whatnot.

I had an art teacher in high school (I live in the Netherlands where grades are also in the form of 1-10, with everything below a 5,5 being problematic) who always started with a 10 and with every mistake or flaw, the grade dropped a bit. 10's were very seldom (if ever) given in his class.

@honolulu_styles​ "movie made after 2000 or 1990 without a metascore rate shouldn't be allowed to be in the list"

Do you mean that you want to exclude some movies from being able to be listed in the Top 250 for movies? That doesn't make sense to me. If a title is a movie, it should be able to get a spot in the Top 250 if enough people like it enough.

If you see a title in the database that is wrongly classified as a movie, you should submit a correction to the database so that title is listed with the proper title type (podcast, video game, tv show, or whatever).

@MovieCat​ "Yeah, I thought Mary and Max was FINE, but always puzzle over what it's doing in there."

I'm just curious, but why? Is it because you feel it's not a movie or because you feel the customers of IMDb vote wrong?

I haven't seen Mary and Max, but based on the IMDb page for it, it's an hour and a half animated non-documentary film that premiered at the Sundance Film Festival. Seems to be a film to me. :)

@Marco​ how many Indian movies with an avg rating above 8.2 are on the site? Luckily there’s a sort of fine tuning that help us and prevent of having like 50 Indian titles. How many animated movies are in the top 250 as well. Too many.btw I have voted jap movies like rashomon with 9s and Indian’s like maharaja 8.  I am not against non us movies. The main issue is that while I am fair with my ratings and I won’t downvote a film because it sits too high on the list, a lot of people give free 1s like there’s no tomorrow. Joan D’arc 4.2 % of 1 is crazy. Even 66.2% of 10s in 12th fail is crazy. I gave 7. It’s clearly not a top250 movie. It has not even a metascore vote. These are the things that need to be fixed.

@Marco​ so if I am from a small city of 60k people and everybody will vote 10 for a movie I made because it is good and they actually like it. you think it classify to be on the top spot of the list even if it’s released only in my city? Hell no. This is a world chart and it should be balanced. That’s the problem I am finding. Small people from a group take up a movie. That’s why I suggested the metascore thing. On metascore only verified critics can vote so you will have another threshold, other than the 25k voters.

@honolulu_styles​ I agree, I have seen quite some Indian movies on IMDb with an average rating above 8.2. But because this thread is about the Top 250, I only responded in that regard. :)

I checked and there are currently 26 animated titles in the Top 250. That doesn't seem like an extremely high number to me.

I agree that there are quite some people who seem to be lying when voting. Giving a 1 for certain titles seems very strange to me. But I'm afraid there's not much we can do about that.

I haven't seen 12th Fail yet, so I can't say much about that.

By the way, I got a message that you've left two replies to my posts, but I can only see one. Is the other perhaps listed in a private area or something?

@Marco​ Sorry, it was just a "personal taste" thing. I've watched Mary and Max, and it's OKAY. In fact, I see I actually gave it 7/10, so I must have thought it was even better than okay.

But I'm just surprised that it gets in every year. This year it was rated higher than Wild Strawberries and The Third Man.

@honolulu_styles​ Trouble is, this encourages elitism on a widely-used site. It could turn people off.

There are plenty of films I wouldn't have anywhere near a Top 250, just off the top of my head:

American History X

Requiem For A Dream

3 Idiots (okay, there's an Indian movie)

Hamilton (as a film of a theatre show, should this even qualify as a film?)

@honolulu_styles​ Now I can see your other post about a small city of 60K.

I agree with you that in that case, a title should not make in the Top 250. But AFAIK, that's already how the Top 250 behaves.

From this list of movies with over 25,000 votes and a rating of 8.2 or higher, quite some Turkish and Indian titles are not in the Top 250: https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?title_type=feature&user_rating=8.2,&num_votes=25000,25000000&sort=user_rating,desc , among which this 1975 Turkish comedy classic with almost 44,000 votes and a rating of 9.2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0252487/reference/

So it seems that the filter you want, is already pretty much in place.

@MovieCat​ I completely understand; we all have films we think are too high on the list. I personally liked Klaus, but fail to see why it is currently at number 168. The same goes for Catch Me If You Can at number 174.

@Marco​ Yeah, Klaus left me cold (though I'm probably not its target audience) and Catch Me If You Can is an okay pop thriller, nothing more.