Discussion: Bumping of Threads

Posts that actually address comments in the discussion are not what I would call "bunping", and I don't think that is what Dan is referring to.

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Peter.... did my post sound like I was considering commenting as bumping? I'm really asking because i thought I made myself clear in my differenciation...

Yes, when Dan started by saying he dislikes "bumping" and you then list three "forms of bumping" including answers to questions and suggestions, then it needs to be clarified that that is not what Dan (or anyone) dislikes.

To my defense, my "three forms of bumping" had nothing to do with the kind of bumps Dan expressed his dislike toward, I mean since I was trying to come up with new solutions, I thought it went without saying that I wasn't referring to the bumps he was referring too... maybe I created some confusion by calling them 'bumping', but it was just for lack of a better word. My apologies if you thought I thought 'commenting' was 'bumping', but then again, it would have been hypocritical from me to dismiss a habit I'm used to do myself in that board.

Next time I'll be more careful with my analogies... no hurt feelings but I expected some feedback on the ideas I suggested, especially the "one-thread" that contains all suggestions, or the Top 10 or Top 5 whatever...

15yearsIMDber aka ElMo, to be honest, while my recent poll suggestion could've influenced your opinion on "added, thanks!", I was actually totally oblivious that it might be perceived as a form of bumping (despite it is logical). I simply and genuinely tried to acknowledge everyone's contribution to the poll.

Lol I really blew it in that thread

ElMo, I think your mention of leaving a note such as "List is Ready" is a good one, in that it is a perfect example of something that's not excessive bumping, or even bumping really, especially because it often serves a helpful purpose: since some polls are a work in progress, can't be finished all at once, have a lot of activity, or is delayed for whatever reason, a note like that can be useful. As long as it's used honestly, and not as a disguised bump, I consider it helpful.

Good idea, Peter, and good idea, NDb, especially the part about bumping.

Just saw this thread and was about to re-post. :)

Bumping is helpful when a suggestion is timely, old, by a new author or when it's been buried by other suggestions a few pages down. And there is no harm in bumping your own suggestions occasionally, but what Dan was referring to is when the same thread is bumped too frequently or mass bumping of many suggestions at the same time.

Jessica:A few is not really exact. Please look 3 pages down at the bottom: 20 hours. Today.Another day 24 hours might be 5 pages down, another day (maybe holidays), 24 hours might be 2 pages down. It changes. And: The more other people make a bump, the faster a page goes down.

I know there's no harm in bumping my own suggestions, I do it only when they are timely. But I have made a tradition to ocassionally search old threads and bump some old suggestions that I find interesting. As for mass bumping I agree, for me as an user it is also annoying to find the first page full of bumped suggestions that buried the new ones. I guess we should agree to be civil and avoid doing it, it doesn't really help visibility if it makes people just pass them to find the things they left below. And specially if editors are telling us it's not helpful to them, then it clearly doesn't help the chances of them becoming live polls so they may be counterproductive and a good idea to avoid it.

I also like going back dozen of pages on the IMDb poll board and seeing anything that interests me that I've missed. My activity here is often in fits and bursts (with often deserts of inactivity in between). But when I see a large swarth of 5 or more poll suggestions from a singular creator? I tend to hit the next page as I'm not going to condone that activity of excessive self-bumping.

This one lies down 24 pages! I think it's a good one, people would click and vote:https://www.imdb.com/list/ls097159126/ Last change was two week ago, when Peter had some critic on it. Since then no yes, maybe, not, after some few changes - it's lost in cyber-space! If not bumped, the idea will expire anyway, untill some newbie will have the same idea by random. Same situation like me and Dibyayan for DiCaprio at the Oscars, which I had to change after Dibyayan was so nice to tell me.

A suggestion that isn't bumped all the time isn't necessarily lost - Pencho and Stephen have just explained how they sometimes go looking for older suggestions that could still be relevant, and others may do the same. There is a search feature, profile pages, we can use bookmarks ... Not all suggestions can be on the top page.

Correct! Some users do 10 suggestions a day, while others do once a week . If there was a limitation, the quality of the suggestions could grow, because the user would better think over what she/he/* suggests. Like it is, it's just a mass flood and the one who does the most, gets automatically the most attention.

That's why I suggested the "solo" thread that lists all the impending suggestions. One for each user should avoid that massive bumping. If we're allowed to bump this once a week, that should be okay. We can even select one day where we could all bump our thread, it wouldn't even be bumping, the last post would be the updated version of the list (new polls included, some being more timely than others) so all the editor would have to do is check the last post of each thread. And we can choose the same title to the thread to make it visible like "POLLS LIST from USER ElMaruecan82"

gromit82, I appreciate your thoughts on bumping because I also do not consider bumping for most thread categories to be a problem in most cases. Generally, the cases where bumping is a problem in these other categories are from users unfamiliar with IMDb and/or Get Satisfaction. I put this in the IMDb Poll category since there has been a problem with this category. I have not responded in this thread for the most part because I wish to get the perspective of poll authors and poll takers, and not impose my opinion on others.

Some people don't care about ... picking up an old idea is ok, but what happens at the moment is aggressive advertising in hope of forcing the admins to pick them more often. I see it like that.

@dan_dassow Before I go full on panic. Has the IMDb Poll been hacked? KiKiWu98 has three polls posted today and no associated discussion threads. https://www.imdb.com/user/ur169309748/

That was my first thought! I asked it about half an hour ago in a threat of KirkPicard. He suposes a new employee who just don't knows by yet. I was baffled when I saw it, especially because there are no backlinks in the polls and no congrats-post in the forum. I hope the page is not hijacked and it is only a drunk employee, something like that. ;)

Also the users don't asks other users, he orders in all three polls to vote! After all I guess may really be hacked, because I can't imagine any of the employees would order like that. Interesting is, that are all polls about three big nations - Miyazaki (Japan), China and Korea. In his profile stands "I am Jiaqi!!". Searched for "Jiaqi" on DuckDuckgo. I see many texts about Influencing, make up, etc. All pointing to China.

On github there is a user with profile-text: Quote: "I am Jiaqi Li, a master student in Computer Science at the University of Hong Kong. I majored in Mathematics and minor in Computer Science as an undergraduate. Throughout my academic journey, I participated in 5 national competitions, earning accolades and completed over 20 mathematical and machine learning related papers and projects, exemplified by more than 20,000 lines of code. To date, I have authored 6 papers, secured 5 work experiences, obtained 3 patents, and earned 4 software copyrights. (end of quote). I don't know if he is THAT Jiaqi. He has just the same first sentence in his Intruduction.

He tells a little further that he works on AI. I hope it's not an AI that runs through the net now. Could be the beginning of viral AIs, maybe Skynet?

KiKiWu98 has an IMDb staff badge. This is probably her: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jiaqi-wu-241920228

Peter, what's up with the polls tonight? There are three polls which seem to be appeared from nowhere. Do you know anything about, Peter?

I don't see the staff badge. Where can I see it?

https://www.imdb.com/user/ur169309748/legacy/