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Poll Suggestion: Miss Moneypenny

Intro: Since the first James Bond movie, Dr. No (1962), Miss Moneypenny ist a fixed constant. There is no Bond without Moneypenny! Which of these Moneypennys is your favorite? Please tell us here. Suggestion: The idea is fix, but we can talk about single features like style. List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls4108612601/ List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls4108612601/copy Poll: TBD

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Fyi, there are to date six Moneypennys, soon to be seven when the next Bond comes out, the non-Eon production takes the MGM Amazon film in a new direction. You left off Moneypenny from Casino Royale (1967) featuring Barbara Bouchet. https://m.imdb.com/name/nm0099054/mediaindex/?ref_=nmmi_mi&relatedTitles=tt0061452 . Plus, I wouldn't call the non-Eon productions unofficial. It was legally upheld that producers, Charles K. Feldman and Kevin McClory, were able to produce the two films, solely based only on the novels, Casino Royal and Thunderball that they owned the rights to. However, neither was able to use elements from other Ian Fleming Bond novels or Bond elements that were created for the Eon films. Also, the copyright issue was resolved and made mute, when Eon made deals to secure the novel rights to Thunderball and Casino Royale, the book rights it did not own and the source material of the two films it did not produce. Plus, the future of Bond is now with Amazon MGM, since it has acquired the rights from Eon. Since, these are undoubtbly "official", you could simply describe them as Not Solely Eon productions and group them with the other two. 25 Eon-produced films: Lois Maxwell (1962–1985) Caroline Bliss (1987–1989) Samantha Bond (1995–2002) Naomie Harris (2012–present) 2+counting Non Eon-produced films: Barbara Bouchet (1967) Pamela Salem (1983) ? Bond 26 Miss Moneypenny (?)

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Barbara Bouchet played Miss Moneypenny’s daughter (called Miss Moneypenny Junior) in the Bond parody Casino Royale (1967). I didn't mean Moneypenny's daughter, just THE Moneypenny herself. But ok, why not.

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Your call, I don't know enough to be sure if the description of the character is a workaround because the character wasn't in the Casino Royal novel and they didn't own the rights or done because "Miss Moneypenny" is a codename that is passed within MI-6 over time, like "Q" and "M" were. Barbara Bouchet as Miss Moneypenny / James Bond 007: The beautiful daughter of Bond's original Moneypenny, who works for the service in the same position held by her mother years earlier

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Maybe for this idea is good for that upcomping movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt13152476/ (on the other hand it will take too long to rememeber this when the movies is released.)

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Urb, what do you think about now? The codename-thing is and was fan-speculation. (I've changed the description a little.)

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Miss Moneypenny is a codename, IMHO. I checked the James Bond wikia, and Miss Moneypenny it seems is a codename/position given to anyone who is private secretary to the Head of the British Secret Service, "M". Both mother and daughter were "Miss Moneypenny" and (IMHO) the Junior designation was either a temporary designation, while her mother still held the position or just a playful jest to acknowledge the relationship. James Bond Wikia (according to) Miss Moneypenny or Moneypenny most often refers to: Miss Moneypenny, a private secretary to the Head of the British Secret Service, "M". Miss Moneypenny (Literary), a secretary to the Head of SIS; created for Ian Fleming's novel Casino Royale (1953) onwards. The codename would explain why different actors have played the role and why the character decreases in age outside of each actor's character run, despite the films spanning nearly 70 years. It also would explain why this seems to apply to other characters, ("007", "M" and "Q"). We even see John Cheese's Bond character remain the same person in The World Is Not Enough and Die Another Day, even though he is promoted from "R" to "Q". Plus, it would be illogical for them to use their real names in spy craft and is consistent with military organization, where "S2" is the designation for the staff intelligence officier. It is easier and more efficient to care about the role you play, rather then learning the name of the most recent occupant.

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Well, so how would you write the option after "Barbara Bouchet - ..."?

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I would change the introduction, alluding to it as a codename without claiming it. "Since the first literary appearance of "Miss Moneypenny" in Ian Fleming's novel, 'Casino Royale' in 1953 and her first film appearance in the Bond movie, 'Dr. No' in 1962, "Miss Moneypenny" has been a vital cog in operations at MI-6, no less important than "M", "Q" or even "007" himself." and keep all the answers for each actor's Moneypenny, limited to film titles, number of Moneypenny film appearances, and dates defining that particular Moneypenny's run. I would stick to the facts in text in the two Non-Eon productions and keep it simple and just state that actor's run was limited to the single appearance and it is a Non-Eon production, without the editorial. I think some of your claims are inaccuarate or misleading in both the Non-Eon options. These two "unofficial productions" optioned the film rights to two specific novels, by purchasing the rights to the novels, Casino Royale and Thunderball. The rights were sold again, when the EON optioned the rights to other Bond novels, and later the entire existing and future franchise causing the overlap. EON lost in court twice in preventing both these films from being made in the first place, because both producers had the limited Bond rights that extended only within the scope of those two novels. So long, as they confined themselves to Bond elements within those novel's pages, they were well within their legal rights to use the "Miss Moneypenny" character, as she was a character in both novels. Barbara Bouchet is credited as simply as "Moneypenny", while she may called be "Moneypenny Junior" in some scenes. I would have to rewatch the 1967 film to say for sure, whether she is or not officially a "Moneypenny", but I suspect she is and the Junior is just an endearment. P.S. a purely speculative backstory for Casino Royale (1967) could be the MI-6 staff and/or James Bond himself called Moneypenny's daughter, Moneypenny Junior as a youth and the moniker just stuck and carried on into her adulthood and later when she assumed her mother's "Miss Moneypenny" job/role at MI-6.

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Bond 26 is probably not imminent and at least 2-3 years out, they are in still in-development and just got a director and writer attached. There was some news this past summer about Eon forming a partnership with Amazon MGM, but ceding creative control to Amazon MGM Studios for this and future Bond films that Amazon MGM finances.

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(According to Wikipedia) "The 1965 film Thunderball differs from the others in how it credits Saltzman and Broccoli; due to a legal agreement with Kevin McClory related to the rights to Ian Fleming's original novel, McClory received producer credit on the film, with Saltzman and Broccoli credited as executive producers. This agreement also gave McClory the rights to remake Thunderball in the future, resulting in the 1983 non-Eon production, Never Say Never Again. McClory would attempt to remake the story a second time in the 1990s, but was prevented from doing so. In 1999, Eon picked up the rights to the Casino Royale novel after a lawsuit between Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM) and Sony Pictures ended as part of a trade deal that saw Sony acquiring MGM's interest in the Spider-Man film rights."

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Haha! Spiderman Tobey Maguire 007! :D I've changed the intro and the two options. Please have a look at it. Thank you for your help, Urb. :D

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Btw.: Villeneuve has some projects in the pipeline. That can cause delays. So I guess it might be that the director changed since they are only in serach for all the people to do that hughe project.

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10 days ago

If there are no further objections, I'd declare it as "ready to go". :D

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In answer option #2, you didn't use the term, Moneypenny Junior in the text, nor is it how she is credited in 1967's 'Casino Royale' film. As written, it makes her seem like the parody, rather than the film being a Bond parody and that Moneypenny wasn't a character in the novel, Casino Royale (1953), which is where the Moneypenny character makes its debut. Plus, it muddles the Moneypenny and Moneypenny Junior characters together and leads readers to assume they are one character and not two. Uncorrected Version #2 "Barbara Bouchet - She played a parody version of Moneypenny, depicted as her daughter in the movie 'Casino Royale' (1967). The character does not exist in Fleming’s novel and is unique to this satirical film. It is not an EON production." Again, this portion does not clarify the option for polltakers, but confuses the issue and is misleading and/or inaccurate. I would correct it. #2 Corrected Version Barbara Bouchet - She plays a version of Moneypenny, depicted as her daughter, "Moneypenny Junior" in the Bond parody film, 'Casino Royale' (1967). The Junior character within the Bond universe is unique to this satirical film only and does not exist in the source material, Ian Fleming’s James Bond novel series. The movie also is not an EON production. Other tweak corrections: #1 Lois Maxwell - She was first "Miss Moneypenny" in 'Dr. No' (1962) and portrayed this character fourteen times from 1962 to 1985. Her last appearance as Moneypenny was in the movie, 'A View to Kill' (1985). #3 Pamela Salem - She portrayed "Miss Moneypenny" in only one movie, in 'Never Say Never Again' (1983). The movie also is not an EON production. #4 Caroline Bliss - She played "Miss Moneypenny" in two Bond movies, 'The Living Daylights' (1987) and 'Licence to Kill' (1989). #5 Samantha Bond - She debuted as "Miss Moneypenny" in 'GoldenEye' (1995), playing the character in four movies from 1995 to 2002, with her last appearance in the film, 'Die Another Day' (2002). #6 Naomi Harris - She broke the color barrier for the "Miss Moneypenny" character in 'Skyfall' (2010). She appeared in the role three times with her final appearance in 'No Time to Die' (2021). Also, in #6 Naomie Harris performs twice in the field outside the confines of MI-6 Headquarters during 'Skyfall' as a field officier, but both these missions were as a field officer and before she permanently becomes Mallory's private secretary (and assumes the "Miss Moneypenny" persona) once he takes over the role of "M" at the end of the film. (According to Wikipedia) Moneypenny was never given any backstory until the film Skyfall (2012), when she was re-introduced to the series following the 2006 reboot of the series' continuity Casino Royale. Moneypenny, now played by Naomie Harris and given the first name Eve, is originally a field officer assigned to work with Bond (Daniel Craig) on an operation in Istanbul. It ends in disaster when she is ordered to shoot through Bond while he is fighting hand-to-hand combat with Patrice (Ola Rapace), the mercenary they are chasing. She hits Bond, who falls off a bridge and is assumed dead. She is temporarily suspended for this and reassigned to desk duty, assisting Gareth Mallory (Ralph Fiennes), the Chairman of the Intelligence and Security Committee, who has been assigned to watch over MI6. When Bond resurfaces and returns to duty, she meets with him in Macau and aids in locating Sévérine (Bérénice Marlohe), an agent of main villain Raoul Silva's (Javier Bardem) before returning to London. Later in the film, she is a participant in another shootout with Silva, when he ambushes a public inquiry into MI6. By the end of the film, she decides to retire from fieldwork and becomes Mallory's secretary once he takes over the role of M.

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Isn't that a little primrose?

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I suggest that you make the suggestion.

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I have no interest.

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10 days ago

Love this idea... Every one will love to have a Moneypenny at work. The character could even inspire its own film.

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@Breumaster https://www.imdb.com/list/ls4108612601/ The requested URL was not found on our server. - - - IMDb Poll Thread Delete Requests Breumaster https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/poll-suggestion-miss-moneypenny/68d1dc07f38d6a1be8040833?commentId=68d293adf38d6a1be80ae0c6&replyId=68d2ec8d71957a4bdeca94fe I think someone else should make that suggestion. The idea is free. https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/imdb-poll-thread-delete-requests/6718d55714936e755cf51116?commentId=68d2ed0471957a4bdecaa014 .

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The list isn't there, because I deleted it. Got a new idea. This one will be deleted.

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@Breumaster Wednesday, September 24th, 2025 Poll Suggestion: Moneypenny List: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls4108248376/ https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdb-poll/poll-suggestion-moneypenny/68d4315771957a4bded7dd3c .