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Thursday, October 20th, 2022

IMDb Name Page Redesign

We are excited to announce the launch of IMDb’s redesigned Name pages! These pages are meant to make your IMDb experience easier and more enjoyable by providing better access to photos and videos, an upgraded view of an individual’s credits, and improved mobile navigation making it easier to view IMDb features on the go. These enhancements reflect changes suggested by IMDb customers, as well as our own in-depth research designed to enhance entertainment content, discovery, and navigation. More information is available in the FAQ on the help page. We hope you enjoy these latest improvements, and thank you for continuing to make IMDb the world’s most trusted source for movie, TV, and entertainment content. — The IMDb Team English | Français | Deutsch | हिन्दी | Italiano | Português | Español

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3 years ago

I actually think the redesign is really good, especially for sorting and filtering. For the past few years, actors' filmographies have been bloated with short-form video being given equal heirarchy to major movies, which is a challenge to solve. Take a look at this excerpt from Leonardo DiCaprio's page. One of those credits is quite unlike the others! But this has been perfectly addressed using the sorting and filtering options, so I commend the team for this. Sorting by "Project Type" is the trick to get the retro IMDb feel, and early 2000's layout! However. There is one issue I still find less than desirable, and seems to go against best practices for readability, accessiblity (around text contrast), and even consistency with the mobile app: the "Year" field has low contrast text and is separated from the film's title with a really large amount of white space. This makes it harder to read somebody's filmography list, while quickly flicking your eyes over to check the year. The whitespace is jarring - especially when you're unfamilar with the actor/filmmaker and there are large time intervals between projects. Here's Roland Joffé's name page (1080px screen, desktop): I think there's definite opportunity to increase the readability of the list, by making the year more prominent, especially for fast readers who might browse several name pages in a session. The primary goal of a list is to enable reader's to quickly absorb data, and I'm sure increasing quick readability might help the overall impression of the page.

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I'm very disappointed that the problem of the gigantic gap between the title of a work and the calendar year of release of said work, on each row, hasn't been fixed in the redesign. Why doesn't anybody seem to notice how hard it is for the eye to pan back and forth? That shit bugs the hell out of me. When the Name Reference View from the generation before last was retired, I had to create a script to manipulate the document object model (DOM) in such a way as to close the gap for the last generation name page layout, and then I was satisfied. Now, I have to repeat that same process again. Unfortunately a vast majority of the people who visit the site don't experience any discomfort from this gigantic gap of which I write.

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@Col_Needham​ Thanks for your reply. Sounds good to me. I wonder if there's a solution that keeps the one-column list view, but brings the Year field closer? I look forward to seeing what the team come up with.

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Most likely some of these new problems will be sorted out in due time. If not soon enough, then I expect to hear from y'all folks in the coming months, like in January, February March, etc., and I'll be disappointed if there is nothing but crickets chirping on this forum regarding this matter.

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3 years ago

Regarding the new format…………… I DON'T like it. EVERY time you change something, it's WORSE, not better. When I go to someone's "resume" page, I want to easily see EVERYTHING they've done. This showing "what they're most known for" is BULLSHIT. You're making it MUCH harder for me to do the kind of research I use your site for. I strongly urge you to allow the OLDER format as an option that one can turn on in a user's SETTINGS, so a person can do it ONCE and not have to bother with this CRAP nonsense ever again.

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@Col_Needham​ The original designers got the credits right. They showed a limited number of credits for each TV show, which allowed them to show the entire show/movie list for a person without a lot of scrolling, and with no "more" buttons required (now I not only need to click to see the list, I then need to click again for various episodes. Click click click). Then if you wanted to see the entire credits for a particular TV show, you did click the more button, but that was unusual for me. The "All Credits" shows me all lines as if I went through on the old page and clicked "more" for each TV show, something I would never do, and that makes scrolling on the All Credits page difficult. Again, the original designers obviously thought and thought about this, came up with a method that worked, and now it's gone.

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3 years ago

Where's the original??? This is too confusing. Don't agree with the changes

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3 years ago

Honestly, the Name Page redesign is awful. The old Name Page displayed every single television series episode in which the actor appeared beneath that particular television series. Now to see which episodes an actor appeared in, I have to click on a link for which a pop up listing the episodes to come up. The page is also harder to navigate and unattractive to boot. I suggest you return to the old Name Page or at least give users a choice of the old Name Page or the new Name Page.

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@Col_Needham​ The "All Credits" view is much better than the Name Page right now, but one problem I have with it is that it is sorted by Year, not Project Type. I have always preferred sorting by Project Type to Year, so that an individual's movie, television, et. al. credits are separate. With regards to the Name Page redesign's approach to television show episodes, how about instead of opening in a pop-up window there was a drop down? For example, on James Arness's Name Page, beside Gunsmoke it would say, "635 episodes" beside which there would be a little down triangle ▼. You click on the triangle and, voila, it lists all the episodes! It would make the Name Page much more usable.

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3 years ago

Please don't hide information on credit items and show full list of credits directly (I don't like [See all] link). Even [View all credits] page (in old style) does not have information on season and episode number - if we can see a name of an episode we can see numbering too. Thanks

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3 years ago

Okay, I have two more thoughts. First, could it be fixed so that our filters can be saved, so we aren't constantly having to reapply them? I don't want to have to apply the filter for "Project Type" every time I visit a Name Page. Second, could we be given a "View All Credits" (text only) page that is sorted by project type? Both would make this redesign much more reusable. As it is, I think I will still be complaining about it a year from now.

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3 years ago

This new layout/version SUCKS so bad Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled Can we opt to have the older version of IMDB?

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I agree. It takes too many clicks and too much time to get the same results. Not to mention the info on the screen is so large that it takes additional scrolling and extra clicks. I really liked it when IMDb was lean and mean and data search was easy and fast. Not all change is good and change for change's sake is only good for the programmers who want to keep their jobs. Help us keep it simple and fast.

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3 years ago

every time I find myself on the 'new', I find it even worse than the last time it is just awful; loads slowly; worthless features; links to no content pages; need to click to see more content rather than just load if you continue to scroll down; overall style is terrible; oversized fonts; crams in pictures where they make no sense it's just terrible; whoever came up with the new 'design' should be fired Note: This comment was created from a merged conversation originally titled go back to old site

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3 years ago

HELP! I have always counted on being able to get a list of films by IMDb rating. That feature is now GONE!

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Hi, rinard. Welcome to the IMDb Community forum! Have you tried clicking the "All topics" button and then navigating to the "CREDITS" heading and clicking "by Rating"? Using the IMDb name page for Alfred Hitchcock as an example, this process would lead you to https://www.imdb.com/filmosearch/?sort=user_rating&explore=title_type&role=nm0000033.

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3 years ago

This new look is NOT ACCESSIBLE for those with reading disabilities/challenges. I cannot believe in 2022 IMDB would be so discriminatory. The text alignment is too close together and the page is way too cluttered and crammed with information to be easily read. Very disappointing that you have chosen to exclude the needs of the visually impaired community.

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3 years ago

👍 Overally satisfying responsive redesign ❗️ Biography & Trivia is yet not responsive but the classical Desktop UI ❗️ Interaction design issue regarding Tiles Swiping vs. Tiles Stepping: If you swipe (scroll) tiles to the left (out of the viewport) and THEN later click the next button "→" (arrow to the right), then that button should step to the next tile from where you are currently scrolled to. Instead the button goes to the next image of when the stepping function was last used (the item oder of the Javascript representation most likely) The scroll order and the element order as the button accesses should be in sync, regardless whether you operate by swiping or button clicking. You should be able to mix those navigation methods in any order at free will.

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I'm don't fully understand. What is stepping?

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The new responsive website has various sections which have multiple tiles (aka "cards") combined together in in a layout row. You can "step" through these tiles with the buttons [←] (previous) and [→] next. Or alternatively you can scroll horizontally. These two navigation possibilities should be in sync. That's the proposed improvement.

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Okay. Thanks. I didn't notice a problem apart from being unable to scroll horizontally while zoomed in, when using a (touch screen) smartphone Web browser.

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3 years ago

The new name page may be meant to make my experience on IMDb easier and more enjoyable, but has achieved the exact opposite on both counts. You say in justification of the new style that "By default, the Credits section is loaded with filters applied for jobs that the person is most known for" but I already know what I know someone for! That I am looking someone up is because I want to know about everything, particularly the jobs for which I was unaware, and to apply my own context on what is relevant for me to know based on my reason for visiting the site. Having looked in my account's settings there appears to be no option to change the filters so they are not applied. So this change also not a default behaviour as claimed but the only behaviour. You have made my experience "easier and more enjoyable" by making me have to click twice on a page (the filter icon, then the "view all credits" link) then wait for another page to load every time I look up a person. Does that really sound easier than just reading the page? Does that sound more enjoyable than just being able to read the page? Never mind it is less enjoyable and less easy when you also have to click on sections to open them. And that the larger font makes the page feel a lot more cluttered which I find more difficult to read. With a database derived web site it should be easy for you to create different views to suit different users. A static page with the data sent in XML, JSON, or anything else so that it requires no extra server resources, yet users can be given different experiences based on their different needs. Designing a single interface will never be easier or more enjoyable for everyone, rarely will it even suit a majority but only the largest minority of users. I do not use the web site as a professional so it is not worth me paying. And for the same reason I am also not a regular visitor to the site but only when I want to look something up. This change makes the site so awkward to use with the extra steps, and more difficult with the more cluttered appearance that I will be far less likely to use it in future.

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3 years ago

based on what i read above, there is no way to revert to the better design on the old pages? a preference? can I at least filter some stuff out like videos? if I want stuff like that I should request it, not automatically there that one thing kills the imdb app on say an iPad, auto plays video. I do not believe most people want that maybe a account preference? why do I now have to hit another link to see all of an artists roles? makes it harder to find things

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Just the latest in the endless parade of "innovations" by people who change things because they're terrified their bosses will notice they have little real work to do. Negative feature: harder to get the info I want. Positive features: none. GET RID OF IT.

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Since the employee who has been commenting in here has said that relative to the user base, very few people have complained about these changes, I'd just like to add my name to the list of people who despise everything about this design change. It's true that you can't please everyone with a change. I can live with the overbearing large pictures and autoplay video that will now greet the top of the page if you just let me see all credits of an actor/director/cinematographer/whatever without having to click any other button to do so. Do not bury this stuff in a sub menu. Do not conceal half the credits under a See More button. This is a database. Not a photo gallery. Let us see the data. When I go to someone's IMDb page, I want to see all of their credits on that page, no searching/clicking required. Also, as I tried to post this, I found that I need a separate IMDb Community Sign In, despite being signed into IMDb already. If you want to know why so few people relative the overall user base are complaining, this unfriendly process to post a complaint probably keeps a lot away.

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@Gmurph​ 😀 Gmurph Joined Fri, Dec 2, 2022 - - - This message board isnot part of IMDb They had their own Boards but closed it down sprinklr.com Needs a different account - - - ACT_1 Wed Nov 30 2022 159,390,000 Users plmoon IMDb member since Wed Nov 30 2022 New user! https://www.imdb.com/user/ur159390000/ - - - Col_Needham @ACT_1​ Correct, registered customers make-up only a fraction of our userbase. IMDb has over 200 million unique visitors per month (and that's visitors not visits, the latter being significantly higher). https://community-imdb.sprinklr.com/conversations/imdbcom/imdb-name-page-redesign/6351563ae7100d725d54c0bb?commentId=63878b2b038ef261b8f4b7fb&replyId=6387e1b00693e36e8a570bfa Most IMDb Users and Visitors do not know to post their comments here Add a Banner Ad top of all IMDb Name pages to visit here?? .

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@Gmurph​ Actually, the autoplay video thing can be turned off. Just click the three dots in the top right corner of the video and de-select the "Play a silent video preview when available" slider. This selection actually carries across to all name pages too. This is a good thing, and show that user customization CAN be implemented, and that it is - so far sparsely - being done. As such, @Col_Needham; we need more options like that one, that actually carry across all name pages, and that can make the page more bearable for those of us who DO have complaints about it, and which will also help a lot of the users who does not voice their opinions. Suggestions: - For the picture section, an option to select the size of the pictures, or even turn them off all together. - For the "know for" section, the same (size of the previews and whether or not to show it). - For the credits section, options for whether or not one wants the list limited by the main professions or not (which currently requires three or four clicks to remove in order to see all professions), options to expand the credits under any given profession fully or not (so that those who wants it can get all credits automatically expanded always, without further clicks every time), and choices for spacing in the credits sections; let people select spacing between each entry, space between title name and year, etc., from a given set of options, where sliding a slider shows you the differences on the fly, letting you choose the one that fits your preference most - And for the general title page, there should be selections for a dark mode, which is becoming a very common and useful thing on many sites these days, and slider options for how to show topics (as a left or right aligned menu, or just as a single button as now) and/or the option to customize which topics to automatically display along or instead of bio/awards/trivia. Such customizations would help make the page better for all. Those who like it as it is now don't need to do anything, and those who have issues can with a few clicks choose a still modern layout based on new technology they prefer more that sticks along all name pages, instead of having to go through a laundry list of extra scrolling and clicks to get to what they want to find on each and every name page, and on each visit to it, as it is now. I might also add that I was "invited" to view the new name page this summer, but at no point was I asked for opinions on it when I reverted back to the old view. It's quite common these days for sites to send out surveys, especially after a new design has been implemented, but I can't ever remember getting such from IMDb. I'd gladly participate in those, though. However, never having seen such surveys been made, I question your grounds for thinking most people like the new design, just because there are only a few people who take the time to find out how and where to sign up to voice their opinion and actually go through the process of registering in order to do so. Just because you still get the same amount of unique visitors to the page does not imply that most of them like the changes. Do you have any data about behavior and visits from frequent visitors from the past versus the same users now? Also, there is a big difference between a unique visitor who only visits the page maybe once a month to check out a specific movie or such, and the "super users" who use the page many times per day. But from your past comments it seem that you weigh both of these category of users the same. I'm sure the vast majority of unique visitors to the page belong in the first category, visiting the page only a handful of times per month; for them a few extra clicks that one time doesn't cause much uproar - if they are able to find what they're looking for at all, though: the "all topics" menu isn't very intuitive. As such, the opinions of those who DO use and care enough about the site to register here and talk about its various changes SHOULD be given a LOT of extra weight!

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@ACT_1​ "Most IMDb Users and Visitors do not know to post their comments here" Or they don't care about every change on internet, they will adapt very fast, we live in a fast-paced world. 😜

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In a way, the IMDb name page redesign isn't so much the problem as the way the new platform upon which it (along with the IMDb title page redesign and the IMDb home page redesign) is built functions altogether. I've complained before about how slow and inefficient the "all topics" feature is (on the IMDb title pages), and somehow I get the feeling that the development team either didn't read it or simply don't care to improve the underlying new software. That's really the crux of this problem. Then again, I'm literally the only person here who is actually complaining about the performance of new platform overall in and of itself, so of course my thought are going to set aside.

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@Col_Needham​ Thanks for the detailed feedback. In terms of additional options, the team are reading the thread and weighing the feedback. Until the entire site is on the new technology it is easier to add options which apply to your current browser vs. ones which apply across browsers and systems. Thanks for your reply. I've come to realize that browser-stored options are probably the easiest way to implement changes, and I'm fine with having to select options multiple times across different browsers and computer, as long as they get stored there from then on, until something forces a reset of cookies etc. Which is why my suggestions are aimed towards options that can be selected and viewed directly on the name page, and not through the user options page. Such options I would expect to be stored per browser, while options stored on the user profile I'd expect to show up everywhere. Are you still on title reference view? Of course I am. I may not be the most prolific contributor, but I tend to do several contributions per month, and both for assessing already contributed data and for overall look, feel and access to the data I generally want, the title reference view is required. I cringe whenever I visit the site through a browser I haven't logged in to... I, like many other in this thread, value effective design over style/beauty, and hate anything new added that suddenly requires several more clicks and scrolls to get to where one wants. Though I understand that I may be in a minority there, and that maybe even most users prefer a "beautiful" design over an effective one, going forward I really don't understand why you can't cater to both. Making a site "skinable", without the use of third party scripts and such, would be both modern and user friendly, and can also work across all types of devices. You can make the default view as stylish and - from my point of view - clunky as you wish, as long as you provide me with a few customizations that can also make it effective, that I, as an advanced and frequent user, would prefer over the default. Default works for most, but advanced users tend to want ways to modify their experience in a more effective way. And it is quite customary in these days to implement such options, and not just have "one view for all, like it or not"... All constructive feedback is being read & weighed by the team and IMDb is always evolving based on customer feedback, however, complaints which are essentially “turn it off” are not particularly actionable given all of the benefits which the new pages have over the old, and the fact that the old tech is outdated and needs to be retired. Besides, the “All credits”view is pretty close to being able to access the old view anyway only with extra episode details added and all of the non-credits data removed. There’s even an unofficial browser script posted in this thread which can swap that view partially in by default. I'll admit that my first comment in this thread was pretty close to the "please turn it off" variety. But I realize that that is not likely to happen. That's why both my first comment, where I also tagged you, and the one this is in reply to now, have several suggestions about how the current view can be customized for a more effective design that will cater to more users going forward.

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@jeorj_euler​ That's an interesting insight. To be honest, considering that it took me months to adjust toprevious IMDb update, I'm kinda shocked how I feel myself at home with the current version already. I understand that I am a minority in that aspect, though.

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But I'm complaining about how slowly all pages on the new platform load, Mykola. In the desktop browser that I use, often the "all topics" menu won't even load, until after multiple clicks! The choice to make the JavaScript as bloated, inefficient and gluttonous as possible (by making it responsible for constructing half of the DOM elements on the entire page) is to blame for this nuisance effect! Why would somebody do this?! Well, such a thing is somewhat common nowadays on the world-wide Web. Google, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok, Wix, among others (based out of North America), are also some of the greatest offenders in this regard.

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(Come to think of it, Sprinklr is another one of them. You might not really notice the effect of the bloat unless loading a gigantic thread.)