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Translation of "assistant director"-credits between english and german IMDb-page: request for some distinctions
Good morning,
I am a 1st assistant director working in germany and writing you on behalf of the german assistant directors-guild "Assistant Directors' Union Germany (ADU)".
We stumbled across the translation defaults between german and english language for credits in the AD-departement, which could need some attention to be more precise in terms of responsibilites and qualifications needed for certain positions.
Currently it seems that a credit that was added in english language as "1st assistant director", as well as "2nd assistant director", are both being translated to "1." and "2. Regieassistenz" by default when switching to the german site (which actually is the correct LITERAL translation for these jobs). Though as productions in germany mostly use another shooting system, in which the responsibilities of a "Regieassistenz" differ fundametally from those of an (international/american) "assistant director", we want to suggest adding distincted credits for both shooting systems: international and german local. Without going too much in detail this distinction currently would be even more important, as through the influence of international streamers shooting projects here there are some productions being shot in the international system (with ADs calling themselves correctly "ADs"), as well as other productions using the "traditional" and long established german shooting system, (where ADs call themselves "Regieassistenz"). Currently though the latter still stays the vast majority of productions.
1st AD:
Here our idea would be to add a credit like "1st assistant director (german local system)" as the english translation of credits that were initially added on the german page as "1. Regieassistenz". Vice versa there should be "1st assistant director" (without the addition in brackets) also available in the german credit-dropdown menu. (Highest precision would be though to call ALL "1st assistant directors" from now on "1st assistant director (international system)", to disctinct them from differing local systems elsewhere in the world, but I guess as this would affect mainly ALL projects on whole IMDb this might not be an option?)
2nd AD:
These credits currently are the biggest issues in our oppinion, as by default all every "2nd assistant director" (initially added in english) are translated to "2. Regieassistenz" on the german site. Though a german "2. Regieassistenz" is a heavily "smaller" position, with completely different (meaning: much less!) responsibilities compared to an (international) 2nd AD. A german "2. Regieassistenz" f.e. is almost only responsible for crowd, whereas an international-system 2nd AD is more like a backoffice-head of organizing the whole shooting process, and also responsible for the call sheet. So translating all 2nd ADs that were added f.e. in american productions as such to german "2. Regieassistenz" falsly shortens the (real) 2nd AD's responsibility quite heavily.
Here we'd suggest to keep all credits added as "2nd assistant director" in english, on both the english and the german page. (Again possibly with the addition "international system" if the above mentioned change for the 1st ADs would be applied, too). Vice versa the most correct translation of a "2. Regieassistenz" added in german language would be a "2nd assistant director CROWD", or (if, as it seems, IMDb's credit policy is to avoid speperation of positions into "Crowd", "Key" and "Base" in general) also "2nd assistant director (german local system)" could be a distinguishable translation.
3rd AD:
Last thing said to this position: as this a heavily used credit in international/american productions, this position doesn't exist in the german local system. So the "3rd assistant director" is more like an exclusively english term that should not get any german translation at all. Suprisingly here currently IMDb by default already shows the english credit "3rd assistant director" in both language pages, meaning: without any translation also on the german pages. But as this is (close to) correct in our oppinion here no changes are needed. But of course again: if as mentioned above for the 1st and the 2nd AD the addition of "international system" would be implemented on the german pages, here showing an entry like "3rd assistant director (international system)" then would be the most correct option.
So to sum it all up we suggest the following:
For credits that were initially added in ENGLISH language:
| English IMDb |
German IMDb |
| "1st assistant director" --> |
"1st assistant director" [OR BETTER "1st assistant director (internationales System)"] |
| "2nd assistant director" --> |
"2nd assistant director" [OR BETTER "2nd assistant director (internationales System)"] |
| "3rd assistant director" --> |
"3rd assistant director" [this credit gets NOT translated by the page already today, which is very much correct. Even though as above "3rd assistant director (internationales System)" would be most precise here.] |
For credits that were initially added in GERMAN language:
| German IMDb | English IMDb |
| "1. Regieassistenz" --> | "1st assistant director (german local system)" |
| "2. Regieassistenz" --> |
"2nd assistant director crowd" [if that's not too long with the addition "(german local system)" to be most precise] |
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["3. Regieassistenz" doesn't exist as a position in germany. So this option should also NOT be available when adding a project in german.] |
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For more detailed information see our detailed job descriptions here: https://ad-union.org/en/unterschied-ad-ra-system-e/
Please also feel free to contact either me or us for any questions. We are happy to help in this (truely complicated :) topic.
Thank you and best wishes from germany,
Nils


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